here's a question for you...physics

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if you are not an engineer, scientist or have some knowledge about fluids you might fail


if you compress any kind of vapor enough you get liquid if at the same time cooling the chamber...the substance changed to a denser form.

everyone knows that water as it freezes it expands. so what would happen if we were to compress water?





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The expanding water ice would increase the pressure in the chamber by increasing the effective volume over that of water. It might create a positive feedback loop in which the expanding ice would increase the pressure in the chamber, and produce more ice.
 

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if you compress any kind of vapor enough you get liquid if at the same time cooling the chamber...the substance changed to a denser form.
You should really try punctuation or writing coherent sentences. I hope I'm not the only one that is flat out lost reading that. It seems like it cuts off or doesn't finish what you wanted to say.
 

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it will turn into a monster to terrorize us all
 

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I think we have a plot line ready for Doom 4 here.

:l
 

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water isn't compressible.
That's what I was going to say, but I don't know for sure. If you try to compress it, it just pushes back just as hard. I mean the pressure at the greatest depths in the ocean can crush a couple inches of steel or some shit, so I don't see how you could.
 

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I'm pretty sure water and any other liquid is compressible, just a matter of how much force you're putting down, once you compress it'll just get more dense.
 

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I'm pretty sure water and any other liquid is compressible, just a matter of how much force you're putting down, once you compress it'll just get more dense.
yeah. thats exactly right
heres some proof
http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae15.cfm?CFID=18092061&CFTOKEN=48397694


anyways it is possible to compress water into ice, however, the amount of pressure needed is astronomical. the reason it expands as it freezes is because water forms a hexagonal crystalline structure, which takes up more space than the "bent" water molecule.
 

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I would imagine it would make a kind of cloudy ice........ really dangerously explosive cloudy ice!!!
 

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I think we have a plot line ready for Doom 4 here.

:l
The plot of Doom is great. Like in Doom 3: We are colonizing Mars but demons from hell enter through a dimension portal.

It's the story that sucks.

In the other Doom games, I'm pretty sure there was no story. "A story in a video game is like a story in porn." iD
 

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yeah. thats exactly right
heres some proof
http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae15.cfm?CFID=18092061&CFTOKEN=48397694


anyways it is possible to compress water into ice, however, the amount of pressure needed is astronomical. the reason it expands as it freezes is because water forms a hexagonal crystalline structure, which takes up more space than the "bent" water molecule.
i'm not sure if you really can compress water to ice....maybe in a very dense water form but not ice. as in the structure ice we know
 

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In the other Doom games, I'm pretty sure there was no story. "A story in a video game is like a story in porn." iD
Actually the original Doom had a novel written about it, or some shit.

The Marine's name was some hectic weird-ass one.

And strange shit happens after a card game.
 

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Your chamber has design flaws, and thus it will split/explode open!

Muahahaha!
 

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Actually the original Doom had a novel written about it, or some shit.

The Marine's name was some hectic weird-ass one.

And strange shit happens after a card game.
But I'll bet it was fan based or profit based, years after the game came out. I don't remember any story while playing Doom 1 or 2. Don't make me re-install it.
 

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If you try to compress it, it just pushes back just as hard. I mean the pressure at the greatest depths in the ocean can crush a couple inches of steel or some shit, so I don't see how you could.
This just in: water the strongest substance known to man? You can surely crush diamonds. But what about Graphene? It remains to be seen.

We must take some Graphene to the bottom of the deepest ocean. It's hard to imagine that water could crush it, being 1 atom thick. BUT - could Graphene compress water? I doubt it. Hmm

I think I have just discovered another way to split atoms.
 

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In between the chapters, doom 1 and 2 had brief story updates. That's how people know the story of doom.

Base on mars, demons start appearing, one guy kicks ass through the station and dies, then kicks ass in hell until he kills satan or something. Goes back to earth where demons are invading, repeats process basically.
 

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so what would happen if we were to compress water?
Depends to what pressures you are talking about

The single combination of pressure and temperature at which water, ice, and water vapour can coexist in a stable equilibrium occurs at exactly 273.16 K (0.01 °C) and a partial vapour pressure of 611.73 pascals (ca. 6.1173 millibars, 0.0060373057 atm). At that point, it is possible to change all of the substance to ice, water, or vapor by making arbitrarily small changes in pressure and temperature.
 

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Water is ordinarily incompressible, with an exception. If water is put under huge amounts of pressure it will actually assume its crystalline structure and become a sort of unfrozen ice. I remember seeing on the history channel this planet they found the size of Jupiter made of almost all water, and they made that point.
 

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I want to clarify what I was saying earlier. First, there are specialized fish that live at the deepest parts of the ocean. The reason this is possible is because they don't have oxygen coursing through their veins. They have some specialized way of oxygenating their blood.

Obviously there are rocks and all kinds of things down there that are doing fine. The reason things get crushed from the pressure is if they contain a lighter gas, like oxygen.

Anyway, so there isn't a deep enough ocean in the world to truly test it's crushing powers. Also, M.Bision's Physcho Crusher.
 
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