At this point I'm not too fussed about the release. It's a free mod and I have other things to play, it'll just be a nice addition to the "stuff I want to try" pile.

Same.


video same

People are actually complaining about the head bobbing? Does it really make that much of a difference? The iron sights however are pointless, they should take those out. The voice acting is amateur yes but to be honest, this is an amateur production, these guys are not professional game programmers and frankly, its like pretty damn good so far. The problem they have is that they are trying t replicate a Valve-made game and naturally as demonstrated here, people are going to be super critical of their work. If you just take a step back from that and have a look, its really not that bad.

I am a fan of this mod, so I am probably biased in my opinion, but what I saw in this video is more that satisfying and great!
Definately I am most excited about the work they did with this. It looks like a very mature work, the map design is awesome and all in all it feels like a commercial game rather than a community mod. Really really excellent job!

just for the record, the developers have set up a rather lengthy and rich wiki in the official site. They additionally offer two topics in the Cafeteria section of their forums for posing questions about the mod and the developer team respectively, and they are pretty active in responding most of them

The problem with the head bob is that it isn't really head bob, it's more like leaning from side to side as you move, it looks very stiff and unnatural. Ugh.

If they are going to go with the exact same intonations of speech as the original voice-overs, why replace them? The track is good. It's exciting. But it's out of place in the video's set-piece. It's jarring - two different things are trying to assert themselves, the game and the music.

Indeed they are present, and you saw the graphics and others, just one thing to tell you, the definition of Black Mesa Mod - RE-MAKE!

The head bobbling and the iron sites where in the MP version of HL1, but the head bobbling was patched out.

This is as close to an official dev quote as it gets. It's from Raminator, from the official forum:

Taken from: http://forums.blackmesasource.com/showthread.php?p=474198#post474198

Bitch, bitch, bitch. The smallest details you won't notice five minutes into a play-through...

You forgot one: why is the rocket towering over the Silo? Pretty sure rocket silos don't work that way. Odd detail to misinterpret - the whole point of On a Rail is that you can visit the various stages of the rocket. Hell, Episode Two does the same thing.

*disappears*

I might be wrong, but I think one of the devs said through out the level you prep the rocket, maybe before you reach the top you raise it up.

Unexciting gameplay, not-so-great textures, terrible music and VA... Yah, not too stoked for this.

Ah yes, the notoriously awful HL fanbase Could their rep possibly sink any lower...!

You're remembering HL pretty poorly if you think the voice work here is superior and that HL had a 'zoom system'. HL just had an alt-fire zoom for the crossbow which the BMS team have extended to the .357, like in HLDM. So no, it's not a big change, but it's hardly 'improving the shitty HL system' either. If you thought it was shitty, it's still shitty.

The main issue I have with this is that I am colour-blind and literally could not see the enemies unless they were shooting.

I watched this in a window and am not color blind and had the same problem.

Also what's so bad about iron sights?

Actually, I think the whole video looks pretty neat.... except the audio. I know they said they were trying to go for a different feel, but that track really misses the mark and seems terribly out place for Half-Life. Also, the HECU voices need to be drenched in radio static because they currently sounds pretty wimpy and bland.

Other than that, I'd give it a play.

Dude, you're full of shit.

I thought this too, but I remember hearing that Valve wanted them to replace all assets to avoid any legal issues.

It's a non-profit mod, one that AFAIK Valve is happy to support, so what legal issues?

Valve said there wouldn't be any issues as long as it used 100% its own content. I read it up on the BM's official forums. Heck, you could probably ask Gabe yourself by emailing him.

Did anyone catch the "Thanks Valvetime!" on BMS main site? hah, they are so full of themselves.

Wait, what? I don't follow the logic of those two statements.

I loved every minute of it.

It really amazes me that people's first reaction to a leaked 5 min gameplay video is to shit on and insult the developers who've spent eight years making a piece of entertainment that they plan to give away for free. Even if you disagree with a particular gameplay choice or have a criticism, there are better ways to express it than bitching like a spoilt child or indulging in ludicrous hyperbole. Some of the people who've posted in this thread should be ashamed of themselves.

No wonder these guys are secretive if this is the kind of the response they get from the community.

"Thanks Valvetime!" was in bold letters on the main page, and then later taken down. The BM forums is a mess, all hell has broken lose, etc.

Then they claim copyright infringement against valvetime.net youtube page (evidence of the gameplay video being taken down).

I think it makes sense for them (the team) to be (or appear to be) in a mess though. They did not expect or anticipate this video release, and it's August, which at least to me means vacation time and it's not easy for a team to coordinate.

well everything seems fine, the only things I don't like:
1. music
2. military voices

Because he spelled it with a "u" and Valve is an American company and their forums shouldn't use British spellings. Suck it.

Also, I missed the video

For all "complainers": most of you don't know sh*t about developement process on this mod, becouse it requires at least following their forum. Your just complaining about things you saw in footage that LEAKED ( so it's not really prepared material, just some "first shot" they did preparing public release) is kinda stupid. For example (according to words of dev member): iron sight - added only for .357, like in HL1 multi, it can be turned off in options; actor voices - in authors intentions there were to keep "grunts" dialogues the way they are (on my mind comes the "B" category movies, where bad guys really wanna show how bad asses they are; for me it's pros, not cons column).
Besides, the goal is not to make HL1 in better graphics (you can play Half Life Source for hi-res textures), so it's not about recreate game exactly as it is on better engine. The goal is to give players the same awesomeness as they experienced playing HL1.

There is a wise old saying: "If you don't like it, GTFO". Nobody forces you to play this mod.

PS. How many of you would spare your free time to make game for few years and release it free ?
So I'm waiting for release or at least some official materials without bitching around, I've got better things to do

...until it got too many negative reactions?

That wise old saying sounds pretty dumb in someone's first post.

You speak as if this mod will ever see the light of day.

which it will

Two things: 1: what does it change that it was my first post? 2: it was kinda translation from my native language so it might not sound that well. But context shows what I meant.

sixteenth: I cannot guarantee that, it's just my wishful thinking but consider the fallowing things:
- authors were preparing actual promo release (leak did not appear from nowhere)
- in this year developers started their let's say "campaign action" ( IMHO few posted screenshots are hard to call campaign, but, well - the gameplay was supposed to be next part of it )
- leak contained music track not listed/shared before (I know, nothing to get excited about but they said earlier release will come shortly after soundtrack release)
- footage is from level, which has only 2 screenshots on their website (I was worried that they still have lot of assets to work on, but I read today something like the assets are done)
- I personally wouldn't leave project which would took me 8 years, unfinished
- even Duke Nukem Forever was finally released xD (shame it's a one-time game :/)

So, keeping fingers crossed

Pi Mu Rho, kineaesth:

Sure, point taken, I might overreact, but to defend myself: people were writing their complains to things being out of context (the aforementioned .357 iron sight for instance). Sure, I could stick to weird in my opinion sound of landing on the ground and .357 cylinder (proper word ? - part where bullets are inside) rotating left instead right and too late. But I'd like to be more objective/impartial so I'm waiting for official content release.

Pi Mu Rho:
about making that game in spare time by authors: it's not more important (why should be?), the thing is as for game developing without budget or financial benefits we should be a bit more forgiving for the authors. Don't get me wrong - of course we all want the game to be possibly best written, constructive criticism is always good, but we should at least give developers chance to present the game content on their own terms and than share our opinions.

Because it looks as if you've participated in a thread, in an unfamiliar community, simply to tell a load of people to GTFO of it.

@Laivasse:
Point taken again, I guess I didn't gave the proper meaning of phrase that exists in community I live and have some negative meaning, but not to the point, that someone should felt offended. If anyone felt so, my apology.

1. Terrible choice
2. Trying to justify it with a false dichotomy