Valve Brings Steam and Source to the Mac

Discussion in 'News' started by Hectic Glenn, Mar 8, 2010.

  1. Hectic Glenn

    Hectic Glenn Site Director
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2004
    Messages:
    12,233
    Likes Received:
    177
    [​IMG]
    [br]An official announcement from Valve now states that Steam and the Source engine will become available on OSX. Valve's library of games including Left 4 Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, Counter-Strike, Portal, and the Half-Life series will be available in April this year. Gabe says:
    Valve are also announcing a new Steam technology - Steam Play. Jason Holtman tells us more!
    These versions will not be emulations but full native conversions according to John Cook
    The recently announced Portal 2 will be Valve's first simultaneous release for Mac and Windows.
     
  2. FoxFire

    FoxFire Newbie

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2006
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hooray for OpenGL.
     
  3. Colonel Kernel

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2009
    Messages:
    494
    Likes Received:
    0
    It's cool, people playing on PCs will be able to play against Mac players. I'd say thats a big step forward for Valve and all.
     
  4. Shakermaker

    Shakermaker Party Escort Bot

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2003
    Messages:
    9,253
    Likes Received:
    2
    Can't wait to pwn some Apple noobs.

    Also, imagine a Mac player going medic.
    "Charge me doc!"
    "How?"
    "Click the right mouse button."
    "But ..."
     
  5. Eejit

    Eejit The Freeman

    Joined:
    May 19, 2004
    Messages:
    13,519
    Likes Received:
    174
    Finally, Steam comes to pretentious artistes!
     
  6. Atlantian777

    Atlantian777 Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2010
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Um... you do realize you can use any mouse with a Mac, right? I play HL2, TF2, COD4, UT3 - on my Mac (in Windows 7, of course)

    Right clicking is only a problem for those who use the lame Apple 'mighty' or 'magic' mouse.
     
  7. Eejit

    Eejit The Freeman

    Joined:
    May 19, 2004
    Messages:
    13,519
    Likes Received:
    174
    Don't be silly, you'd get it on your sheepskin jacket first!
     
  8. Escaep

    Escaep Tank

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2006
    Messages:
    2,997
    Likes Received:
    0
    Will do some benchmarks when it comes out.
     
  9. monkeyclass

    monkeyclass Newbie

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2007
    Messages:
    215
    Likes Received:
    0
    thats nice, now I will no longer need boot camp! :D

    EDIT: I wonder if the Source SDK will be available also!
     
  10. Bob-taro

    Bob-taro Medic

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2009
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    0
    Wouldn't there be technical "gaps" between OpenGL and Direct3D capabilities? It used to be OGL was "better" and D3D was "faster", but I'm not sure anymore. A technical article on this port would be interesting.
     
  11. Paulaner

    Paulaner Space Core

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2007
    Messages:
    1,945
    Likes Received:
    12
    Yes, what about performances?
     
  12. Pi Mu Rho

    Pi Mu Rho ValveTime Admin | Enemy of fun
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Messages:
    9,359
    Likes Received:
    117
    Valve can barely make the SDK work on Windows, so I wouldn't expect it for the Mac.
     
  13. MorganFreeman911

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Messages:
    3,719
    Likes Received:
    2
  14. ríomhaire

    ríomhaire Moderator
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2004
    Messages:
    20,898
    Likes Received:
    369
    Does this mean they're going to bring Steam Cloud saving to their SP games or this is just what they expect other devs to do?
     
  15. GeorgeWLucas

    GeorgeWLucas Hunter

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2004
    Messages:
    52
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't like Macs, but everything about this announcement is good news.
     
  16. TwwIX

    TwwIX Tank

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2003
    Messages:
    3,044
    Likes Received:
    1
    All 13 people who game on the Mac are jumping with joy now.
     
  17. <RJMC>

    <RJMC> The Freeman

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2004
    Messages:
    11,049
    Likes Received:
    69
    I guess there will be a lot of "PC vs mac users" competitions isnt?
     
  18. Shakermaker

    Shakermaker Party Escort Bot

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2003
    Messages:
    9,253
    Likes Received:
    2
    Yes, I know. I was just making a little fun. :bounce:
     
  19. knut

    knut Party Escort Bot

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2005
    Messages:
    7,436
    Likes Received:
    18
    i have boot camp but i can't get steam to work, so this has made me SO ****ing happy. YES. i mean i'm pretty dandy playing L4D and HL2 on my 360, but as i have no reason to bring that to uni with me, this is going to be make me a very happy bastard come next term.

    hoooorah!
     
  20. scotland1

    scotland1 Spy

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2007
    Messages:
    879
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oh god, the Mac fanboys are NEVER going to shut up about this.
     
  21. MuToiD_MaN

    MuToiD_MaN The Freeman

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2004
    Messages:
    4,511
    Likes Received:
    190
    These things are what I came here to say.
     
  22. knut

    knut Party Escort Bot

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2005
    Messages:
    7,436
    Likes Received:
    18
    well, why wouldn't they? :| it's news to get excited about.
     
  23. Kirkburn

    Kirkburn Newbie

    Joined:
    May 22, 2004
    Messages:
    851
    Likes Received:
    0
    And this would bring MORE people to gaming on the Mac.

    Use some logic?
     
  24. lord_raken

    lord_raken Tank

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2008
    Messages:
    1,100
    Likes Received:
    2
    Praise Valve from whom all gaming blessing flow!

    Now I won't have to buy a new computer! I can now play on my MacBook Pro!!!
     
  25. MJ12

    MJ12 The Freeman

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2007
    Messages:
    12,845
    Likes Received:
    16
    I just hope this helps out PC gaming in the long run.
     
  26. Dinnesch

    Dinnesch Space Core

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2009
    Messages:
    1,285
    Likes Received:
    6
    Mac users that are so fanboyish that they don't install Windows through bootcamp don't deserve to play TF2.
     
  27. knut

    knut Party Escort Bot

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2005
    Messages:
    7,436
    Likes Received:
    18
    edit: **** it, no point.
     
  28. ZoFreX

    ZoFreX Spy

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2004
    Messages:
    558
    Likes Received:
    1
    Good news in every way! Seeing as Source is running on OpenGL now... how long do we have to wait for Linux ports? :p

    A cool thing would be online leaderboards, Mac vs PC... nothing like a bit of friendly rivalry ;)

    Oh, and automagically syncing save games between Mac and Windows gave me shivers. That's awesome.
     
  29. monkeyclass

    monkeyclass Newbie

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2007
    Messages:
    215
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well it's great news. IF Valve can get steam and the source games to run as good on mac as on Windows. The only downside to mac gaming will be the impossibility to upgrade hardware for real (beside 4gb ram upgrade on macbook pro[yeah])
     
  30. lord_raken

    lord_raken Tank

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2008
    Messages:
    1,100
    Likes Received:
    2
    True. But at least I won't have to fork over about $1000 for a gaming computer for another year or so.

    Trust me. As soon as i am able I'm building another tower of power but with this I can keep up until then... instead of sitting on the sidelines.
     
  31. Polaris

    Polaris Spy

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2004
    Messages:
    3,138
    Likes Received:
    1
    Valve had some technical difficulties with that. It would be cool though.
     
  32. guiltytomb

    guiltytomb Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0

    Umm...you do realize the lame Apple 'mighty' or 'magic' mouse both have right mouse buttons, don't you? Not a physical button but the lame mouse can sense which finger you're using. I've been playing the entire Valve library and a variety of Steam games on my Mac for years...with both a 'magic' and 'mighty' mouse.

    It's funny to me that even a Mac user doesn't know that...no wonder why Microsoft and Linux users have such a misunderstanding of Mac.
     
  33. Atlantian777

    Atlantian777 Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2010
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    We'll see how 'fun' it is for you when you get pwned. :LOL:
     
  34. Atlantian777

    Atlantian777 Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2010
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Notice that I did NOT say these mice don't HAVE right click ability. They do - but with every generation of the 'mighty' mouse, the user cannot right click and left click at the same time, as is often necessary. The 'magic' mouse is a pain to use for gaming.

    Do not put words in my mouth.

    My point is it's the MOUSE that's the problem - not the OS.
     
  35. guiltytomb

    guiltytomb Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Fair enough :cheers:!
     
  36. Atlantian777

    Atlantian777 Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2010
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    Haha agreed.

    I'm a Mac user, but I don't mind booting to Windows to play an occasional game. I like Windows 7. :thumbs:

    Still, Steam + HL2 on OS X will be nice.
     
  37. guiltytomb

    guiltytomb Newbie

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    3
    Likes Received:
    0
    Whoa! I was not trying to spark an argument. I agree the 'magic' mouse can be a pain to use for gaming. Never had a problem with the 'mighty' mouse, ever. Perhaps it was my own misunderstanding, it looked like you were implying the lack of right click (as many anti-Mac people still think to be true).

    Trust me, not attacking anyone...definitely not trying to put words in anyone's mouth.

    Whew.:O
     
  38. DEATHMASTER

    DEATHMASTER The Freeman

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2005
    Messages:
    12,759
    Likes Received:
    118
    Pretty much.
     
  39. BabyHeadCrab

    BabyHeadCrab The Freeman

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2003
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    392
    My main PC is a Macbook Pro booted to Windows 7. I'll be psyched when I no longer have to dual boot.
     
  40. Shamrock

    Shamrock Companion Cube

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2004
    Messages:
    6,367
    Likes Received:
    44
    In the long run, isn't this possible it will hurt Apple's sales? Look at it this way, a Macbook usually ships with a decent videocard, but it's already dated and something new is already out. At the rate that Macs refresh compared to the rate videocards are released and new hardware is needed. Isn't it possible that maybe after a few years noticing this trend, Apple customers will think twice of purchasing a second Macbook?

    I mean I've been on a laptop for the past two years, and as I've grown accustom to the mobility of it and the power it's able to yield, I've noticed that some games don't play the same as when I first got it and newer ones just push my hardware and make me wish I stuck with a desktop.

    I mean it's great that Steam and Source are coming to OSX, but I'm just wondering if the consumers will notice that they need to upgrade their hardware every so often. An iMac and Macbook usually receive the same hardware and/or configurations which makes them basically obsolete about a month after it's released whilst the Mac Mini isn't upgradeable and the Mac Pro is insanely expensive. I can see Hackintosh users loving this as they'll never have to leave their OSX install, and they can upgrade with fair ease.

    Maybe once Steam comes to OSX and if what I say comes remotely true, maybe Apple will take note and make a desktop that is cheaper yet upgradeable by the consumer and their OSX is able to use whichever videocard you use then again this goes against their closed environment, and they'll more than likely see this as a plus for their sales as users will be more likely to notice that their system is obsolete when Apple releases a refresh of it the following year and that's when the consumer sells their old Mac and buys a new one.

    Anyway, I welcome our new OSX friends. I'm actually excited about this. Me one friend has always loved TF2, and he used to come over to play on my spare gaming PC, but now he can install Steam and use TF2 right from his Macbook... Then again I think he has integrated graphics... So nevermind that! Either way, yay! :D
     

Share This Page