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Discussion in 'Politics' started by repiV, Mar 21, 2007.
take it somewhere else patriot boy
Sung is such a goddamn fascist.
Its a shame that MrMecha chose to censor that particular post , as it (if I remember rightly) consisted almost soley of an excerpt of a Robert Fisk article.
For once kat'skrazy posts an article that isnt bat-shit-insane and it gets replaced with some irrelevant bullshit.
dont think it was Mecha
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It was; thus the "Last edited by Mechagodzilla" beneath the post
whoops, nevermind :E
I use this browser called Ghostzilla (work safe browser) .. sometimes it doesnt display everything ...that's my excuse and I'm sticking by it
I thaught we were talinking about isrealite soldiers, my bad.
Coming from a French person. The irony is truly stunning.
Lol I couldn't understand what he was on about either.
I sometimes think numbers would make more sense than him, even if he couldn't speak english.
France, you know, the rapist of Africa, etc. By the way, Solaris, don't try try to get up on a pedestal here. In your own words, all Israelis are "bastards", remember? Racism is not a pretty thing.
Oh I just love it.
You said I said:
"All Israelis are Bastards"
Sir, I demand you source this quotation, it is blatantly untrue it is a lie. You sir have put lies in my mouth. Source what you just said, or leave here with your reputation ruined. How dare you make lies about me, making me look like a racist.
You said "how can you support those bastards" after I said something in a thread involving Israel. The way I see it, you were referring to Israelis. You didn't elaborate, and you didn't excuse yourself, which leads me to believe you meant what you said just the way you wrote it; That Israelis are bastards.
Oh please, are you referring to the thread about the little girl shot dead in cold blood by Isreali soldiers as she was running away terrified and someone was defending the soldiers?
And I'll go further, the Israeli government are bastards, the soldiers morally corrupt and many of them are bastards for shooting little girls and the like.
But I have never said all Israelis are Bastards please show me where I have, in a reasonable context too.
See, there you go once again: All Israeli soldiers are evil beings. You know that more or less all Israelis serve in the IDF, so you just reiterated what you already said, but this time, you made it abundantly clear that you weren't accusing SOME of being "bastards", you were accusing ALL of them. That doesn't help your case much.
It does, becuase I'm drawing a line between those who help occupy the Palestinians and those who do not. The soldiers do. And I still want an apology or source.
All Israelis, men and women, are required to serve in the IDF. Men for 3 years, women for 2.
All healthy Israelis are soldiers.
"Help occupy the Palestinians"...
They should refuse to serve. Some do, they're hero's.
No they're not, they're cowards - and, seeing as Israel is constantly fighting for its survival, traitors.
Well we can debate like that all day, but Nemisis's claim that I am a racist remains unsubstantiated.
Israel is a nation without a purely uniform race, idiots.
Solaris is is criticing their military. A military is not a race.
I do not enjoy being put into a position of defending Solaris.
Consider this a pre-emptive warning.
There's nothing to debate - if you willingly put your nation at risk, you are a traitor.
You may not be a racist, but you sure do paint with a broad brush - combined with your less than stellar grasp of the facts, your views are just as indiscriminate.
Well, Solaris, the ones who do are generally far-left (Yesh HaGvul) or far-right (Naturei Karta, Haredi, generally the more backwards of the Jewish religion), and as I understand, the people who refuse to do army service are generally look down upon, and rightly so.
What is my point with the latter paragraph? Well, you say the refuseniks are heroes. Heroes aren't looked down upon.
One man's hero is another's worst enemy, it's all a matter of perspective.
Correction: One man's dumbass is a socialist's hero. Besides, Solaris doesn't think they're heroes, because he thinks they're bastards. By saying these "bastards" are heroes, he makes himself look like a revolutionary or something; Fighting for the dramatization of stupidity. Playing for the camera if you will. Honestly, it's too cliche to have any merit.
Cliches still have merit. "The people who want to kill people are bad guys". Is that meritless because it's a cliche? Wrong point to use, try another one.
please, everything you say is too cliche to have any merit
You've yet to apologies for lying about me to make people think I'm a racist.
We may disagree but I do not go around saying "Nemesis kills children" or "Nemesis thinks Chinese people are genetically inferior". If you are going to be a constructive member of this sub-forum, it is mandatory you do the same. You didn't, you misquoted me and called me a racist. I demand an apology.
"Amateur video footage shot earlier this week showed Israeli soldiers apparently forcing Palestinians to stand in front of their armoured jeep."
Also Palestinian children have been used in house to house searches by Israeli troops.
I like to add that I don't support terrorism nor do I support state terror.
Two things fundamentally wrong with your comparison here - first of all, the video "apparently" shows one isolated incident of Israelis using Palestinians as human shields. Hezbollah etc. use human shields as a matter of course - it's the reason so many civilians died in the conflict in Lebanon, they made it impossible for Israel to strike at them without killing civilians.
Secondly, the Israeli army has suspended the person who is "apparently" responsible and he is facing severe punishment for his actions. The Palestinians encourage and cheer the same behaviour.
Why are you trying to draw moral equivalence between the two when there clearly is none?
Iraq war is for the security of Israel. The longer the war, the safer the Israel. That's why they need an insurgence to drag the US troops in Iraq as long as possible.
Where the car bomb came from?
Here is another case that US Army plant it to provoke a civil war in Iraq.
Quote, "He got suspicious because the Americans call him ask if he is already in the market
Iraqirabita tell a story about an Iraq interpreter working in an American military base was sent to the city by his bosses to by computer hardware, he took the car but he stopped by friends.
He got suspicious because the Americans call him every now and then asking him if he already in the market, he parked the car in the middle of nowhere and answered yes, few minutes after that the car exploded. The guy left the country after that to Turkey.
For more information in English on American black budget special operations money being used to set up so called suicide bombing, below
He said, you'd make more sense than him even if you weren't speaking english.
I agree with most of this post, but the Iraqis never really had a chance to be free. A freedom struggle has to come from within, not from America's war.
US provokes Iraq civil war
US and Israel intelligence are carring out a policy to provoke a civil war in Iraq. The purpose is to let Iraqis to kill Iraqis.
The real people behind the insurgence are US and Israel intelligence and Pentagon. They try to provoke a civil war in Iraq so US Army can stay in Iraq until next war: Iran's or Syria's.
Will a peaceful Iraq needs US occupation troop any more? No, US will have no excuse to stay.
How can US troops stay in Iraq? When there is riot, car bombing, death squad killing, civil war.
Well, the terrorist is there, withdraw troops is cut and run, Bush says. So Bush can have US troops stay in Mid-east until the next war - a war on Iran or Syria.
That's why we saw Al Qaida (a special force to act on behalf of US intelligence) launched attack at Shiite shrine to start the conflict between Sunni and Shiite. We already know the 911 attack was in the name of Al Qaida which gave Bush the justification to start the war in Mid-east - war on Afghanistan and Iraq.
The US and Israel intelligence controlled death squad of Iraqis government which is used to kill Sunni people. On the other hand they controlled insurgence and Al Qaida to kill Shiite civilians by car bombing. That is how they create a civil war in Iraq.
OMG it all makes sense now. The world needs more people like you kathaksung. These forums are a lot like IHOP. When you enter...there is always gonna be someone fatter/dumber than you are.