Nobody is suggesting anything like that. I'm not susually so brazen in my disdain but I suggest you stop being an arse/stupid.
you misunderstand me, i really do think it's great, in fact we should be giving it to our kids as there's no downsides, it's fine:smoking:
what else is there to try when sound reasoning fails, you guys are obviously so convinced that your cannabis is fine and there's no possibiity of it having any downsides, might as well be talking to a wall
'Our' cannabis? I smoked a joint once. I didn't like it. Anyway - I don't see anyone at all claiming that there's no possibility of cannabis having any downsides at all. Rather, people are claiming it has far less downsides than most people think, or that it has far less downsides than many other things that are currently legal. Or they're claiming that they have a right to use it despite the downsides...freedom and civil liberty and all of that. You're casting yourself as the only logical person in this entire debate..."what e;se is there to try when sound reasoning fails?" you ask. Well, I'm sure many of your opponents in this thread are asking the same question.
the fact that people have tried scaremongering tactics before like saying it'll make you infertile or it suppresses the immune system, or that there are other more damaging things out there which are legal is a moot point, in the end you'll have to weigh up your own personal ups and downs and make a choice... i've simply got better things to spend my money on and the links to mental health problems are far too great when compared to any benifits i might get from smoking it. again it's a decision up to the individual but i wouldn't start ingesting, inhaling or injecting known cancer causing chemicals into my body through choice, whether the effects they have are proven or not.
yeah, it sucks doesn't it, there's even carcigonens in every day toiletries and 3,4 benzopyrene is a product of roasting coffee beans but would you go around rolling it asbestos for a laugh or sitting next to a running diesel motor cause you like to smell the fumes if you had the choice not to? why expose yourself to extra, avoidable, carcinogens?
lone wolf i see where youre coming from, everyone here does. And we do hear you and we do listen. But to us everything you have said is just scare tactics or research with numbers that are very inaccuarte. You may not believe it, but we do, to each his own. Regardless of the fact of what you think is true, we believe something alot different, and have real research that shows both sides of the arguement. Every major pro site out their lists the positives and negatives. And the positives out weigh the negatives greatly, and im not talking about just using the substance to get high. You may be able to contract a mental disease easier, but your far more likely to get depression over schizophrenia. You would also have to smoke alot of marijuana for anything to be triggered. Can we all at least agree it should be legal, if not for just the benefits it has besides getting high?
LMAO, if that's what you believe then there's not a lot of point in arguing the toss, you can read and believe what you like, research is very rarely ever conclusive so you have to take a step back and observe the larger picture, and if you do that then you will see the truth and no, it shouldn't be legal
i have observed the larger picture, and i have concluded that their is no harm done in letting marijuana be legal. Every country who has decriminalized pot is much better off then we are in terms of crimes and especially jail situations. You know how much space in jails we would save, and tax payers dollars. You wanted to talk about taxpayers dollars... well imagine how much we would save if pot was decriminalized. Plus imagine how much the gov't would get in taxes from the marijuana industry. You are right, you do have to step back and see the whole picture. Except you cannot have a narrow mind about it... this is about the long run and the future. Not just one persons vision of the future.
Hey, just out of curiosity I was cleaning my pipe earlier. If you've ever done this you know the inside gets covered in some nasty sticky gooey shit. Is that what my lungs are like? Cuz thats absolutely ****ing gross if they are.
that's resin your lungs might look like that if you smoke a TON of pot (or a normal amount of cigarettes) for a few years.
not going to read the 10 pages of this because I honestly don't care that much will respond to whats probably in them based on discussions with others in the past. -no -no -yes -no -42 marijuana is harmful it's about on par with pure tobacco you only have 2 options all drugs legalized or all drugs illegal as the food industry pushes stimulants and narcotics and the medical industry pushes painkillers and mood stabilizers I'm going to say all drugs aren't going to be made illegal anytime in the near future so anyone fighting for making certain drugs illegal while leaving worse drugs legal is quite simply a complete moron now for my favorite medical problem terminally ill patients are left suffering on morphine which does little to nothing for their pain heroin however in it's weakest form is 8 times as effective as morphine yet the U.S.A. surgeon general will not allow heroin to be used on terminally ill patients because it's more addictive than morphine many of you are probably seeing the same problem with this that I do... and currently going double-u tee ef?
And, resin is some pretty powerful Shit. But I have to agree with Ennui (If this is his point anyway.) watch how much you smoke, don't go binge everday.
Umm.. the lungs do clean themselves out you know, smoking would probably make you suffocate pretty quickly if they didnt.
Just about everyone I know has drank before doing ANY other drugs. Alcohol->marijuana->other stuff If anything alcohol should be banned. Also I dont know anyone who tries to start fights or beats up their spouse while high....
That depends on who's drinking it. I like a drink, never get violent. Nor do I feel the urge to jump into a car and kill myself or any passengers. Unfortunately this doesn't reign true with everyone, but the fact is alcohol is highly taxed and generates a lot of money, just like tobacco.
Well, that would be stereotyping, because there are people that begin drinking, and never try anything else. Alcohol rakes in to much profit, and people are always demanding it, so its not about to get banned anytime soon. And if it was, think of huge underground trade that would spring up, bringin the safety of liquor way down, as it will now be brewed in backwater distilleries with god-knows-what in it, instead of in regulated tanks. The same goes for weed, if it was legal, then its quality would actually become better/safer. And weed is an emotional intensifier. Although it does make you feel happy, it intensifies whatever mood you were feeling when the high gets to you. If your scared, you get paranoid as shit, if you were happy, you become a regular clown, ect.
Violent tendencies have more to do with genetics, than alcohol. Of course the latter can increase such tendencies, but is has nothing to do with the larger picture.
Teh-Pwned, from personal experience that is not true. I only get 2 different kind of moods, no matter what mood i was in before i got high. Either happy, or tired :/
*Sigh* And this is always on the top of every drug information sheet- Everyone is different. It has different effects on everyone. Just because one of the side effects never happens to you doesn't instantly make it untrue, false, or never happening. These studies are based off of mass populous effects, not just one person. And did I not state that smoking pot does bring a sense of Euphoria?
Legalize it. Legalize it you god damn shit-eating assclowns. I hope to ****ing Allah that the younger generations grow up with some balls to fight such stupid legislation.
Same goes with alcohol. Some people get silly, and some get violent and start fights. Weed, on the other hand, I have yet to see anyone get violent on, excluding cases of pcp of course...
Don't argue that if alchohol is legal then marijuana should be. I agree that alchohol should be illegal but that isn't possible any more. This thread would be pointless if it headed that direction. Alchohol is too popular to make illegal and they already tried to do that once and it failed horribly. If we make marijuana legal the same thing would happen. Can't revert back due to society wanting to keep it legal even more so than now. It would be an even larger issue.
I should have the right to consume mind-altering substances so long as I do so in responsibility. The ban of alcohol was reversed because it was a failure? Look around you. Prohibition against cannabis is one as well. It irks me to no end that some people can sit idly by as harmless drug users are jailed because apparently there will be widespread societal doom if cannabis is legalized, despite the fact there's really quite little to justify such a fearful rationale.
i used to smoke a ton of weed, recently stopped, gonna start up again soon. but ya it SHOULD DEFINETLY be legalized, it doesnt lead to violent behaviour, only sleepy mostly, and ya i cant drive yet but i could only imagine how hard and insane it would be to drive under that influence. so driving on it should definetly be banned and im sure everyone else should agree with me. ive gotten a ride several times with this guy who i got stoned with, and its an insane experience just sitting in the back seat, ur head feels like its getting sucked back, so ya, driving would be an even bigger story than that, and that should be banned for sure. at least. but im all up for legalization, i love weed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly my point. Cannabis used to be legal. The same thing that happened with alcohol prohibition is happening. People are still using it, in the same quantities as before.
Legalize marijuana. People should have the right to screw up their own bodies, and alcohol's legal anyways. There's no good reason to NOT allow it, because it doesn't hurt anyone other than the user.