ever wonder about the everest climbers who don't make it?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Jerry_111, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. Jerry_111

    Jerry_111 Newbie

    Joined:
    May 19, 2003
    Messages:
    951
    Likes Received:
    0
  2. YROC

    YROC Formerly Hokey McSmokey

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    2,967
    Likes Received:
    56
    Awesome stuff. There's a page on wikipedia that lists the creepiest places on earth. That might be on it.
     
  3. jimbo118

    jimbo118 Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2004
    Messages:
    8,798
    Likes Received:
    0
    link?
     
  4. Stormy

    Stormy Companion Cube

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2003
    Messages:
    3,888
    Likes Received:
    27
    Really interesting and rather creepy.
     
  5. Vegeta897

    Vegeta897 Banned as all fuck

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2004
    Messages:
    26,146
    Likes Received:
    767
    Oh my god that's ****ing scary. Just looking at those pictures you can just see exactly what their last moment looked like, and imagine what they were thinking. Unsettling.
     
  6. MJ12

    MJ12 The Freeman

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2007
    Messages:
    12,845
    Likes Received:
    16
    I guess the last photo is of a very famous mountain climber, Peter Boardman.
     
  7. Remus

    Remus Companion Cube

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Messages:
    7,919
    Likes Received:
    53
    And while reading that article I kept thinking: "Why oh why are people still doing this?!"

    If you're looking for adventure there are much safer places to get your kicks, instead of Everest, where it's almost a guarantee you'll get killed in the process.
     
  8. morgs

    morgs The Freeman

    Joined:
    May 7, 2007
    Messages:
    4,202
    Likes Received:
    309
    Maybe surviving the dangers is the satisfaction they crave.
     
  9. Qonfused

    Qonfused Party Escort Bot

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2004
    Messages:
    9,506
    Likes Received:
    5
    Great read, thanks for the link!
     
  10. Remus

    Remus Companion Cube

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2006
    Messages:
    7,919
    Likes Received:
    53
    I suppose it depends on the person. My idea of an adventure is traveling and seeing the world (safely of course). Anything "unsafe" interferes with my plans to... you know stay alive.
     
  11. <RJMC>

    <RJMC> The Freeman

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2004
    Messages:
    11,049
    Likes Received:
    69
    I dont get people asking "why they still do this?"

    they do it to get at the top of the highgest mountain in the world,thats something not everyone do and is a big feat

    like telling to the athletes that participate int he olimpics, "why you do all this stuff? to get some round disk of some metal to hang in your neck?"
     
  12. Escaep

    Escaep Tank

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2006
    Messages:
    2,997
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'd attempt to climb it if I was presented the chance.
     
  13. YROC

    YROC Formerly Hokey McSmokey

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2008
    Messages:
    2,967
    Likes Received:
    56
    I'd consider it. I know I would "nope.jpg" so hard at the first corpse I saw while climbing. "we gosta get the hell outta hur"
     
  14. Bad^Hat

    Bad^Hat The Freeman

    Joined:
    May 13, 2003
    Messages:
    19,989
    Likes Received:
    437
  15. AJ Rimmer

    AJ Rimmer Tank

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2004
    Messages:
    6,458
    Likes Received:
    2
  16. Dan

    Dan Tank

    Joined:
    May 28, 2003
    Messages:
    4,186
    Likes Received:
    1
    I think it is pretty clear that they were killed by some Soviet era weapons testing.

    Probably Russians were shooting neutron bombs, or some sort of artillery or depleted uranium shells in the area.

    Skiiers realize they are in the test zone of some weapons firing, try to run away to seek cover on the other side of the pass. Some get hit by pressure shock waves (fracturing skull and chest) and die of injuries or cold. Of course it's hush hush in Soviet Russia.
     
  17. Kaptain H

    Kaptain H Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2007
    Messages:
    526
    Likes Received:
    0
    I once read a suggestion that infrasound from something like an avalanche or weapons testing might have caused them to panic and leave their tents 0:
     
  18. MJ12

    MJ12 The Freeman

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2007
    Messages:
    12,845
    Likes Received:
    16
    There is a much more reasonable explanation someone had, wish I could find it. The radiation for example, can be explained by the packets that the lanterns used for power at the time, which contained radioactive dust.
     
  19. Yuri

    Yuri Tank

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2004
    Messages:
    5,365
    Likes Received:
    2
    That was a damned excellent article, thanks
     
  20. Danimal

    Danimal Companion Cube

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2004
    Messages:
    11,739
    Likes Received:
    3
    Then you are not adventurous, you would just be travelling.
     
  21. Raziaar

    Raziaar I Hate Custom Titles

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2003
    Messages:
    29,759
    Likes Received:
    132
    Don't forget the Russian necrophiliac soldier who finds tongues gross.
     
  22. Maestro

    Maestro The Freeman

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2007
    Messages:
    2,254
    Likes Received:
    111
    1 in 10? Bah, that's nothing. Of the 'Big 14,' Everest is far on down the list. Annapurna takes the prize with 2 in 5 climbers dying.

    Only 6 people in history have ever climbed all of the Big 14 without oxygen, Ed Viesturs has a fascinating read about his experience doing so.
     
  23. Dan

    Dan Tank

    Joined:
    May 28, 2003
    Messages:
    4,186
    Likes Received:
    1
    Meili Xue Shan in China has a death ratio of infinity due to 19 climbers dying and nobody ever reaching the summit. (Death ratio is usually taken as deaths per successful summit bid)

    By shear numbers Mt Tambora is the deadliest, having wiped out an estimated 40 000 people in its eruption.
     
  24. VirusType2

    VirusType2 Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2005
    Messages:
    18,192
    Likes Received:
    0
    Maybe he bit off his own tongue. It's easy to do if you don't keep your mouth closed and are struck violently in the chin, or in the top of your head to the point where it forces your chin down/mouth closed.
     
  25. JUL3

    JUL3 Space Core

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2009
    Messages:
    1,323
    Likes Received:
    21
    That's some grim shit.
     
  26. Darkside55

    Darkside55 The Freeman

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2009
    Messages:
    12,103
    Likes Received:
    75
    Rhythmic gymnastics never killed anybody.
     
  27. Jerry_111

    Jerry_111 Newbie

    Joined:
    May 19, 2003
    Messages:
    951
    Likes Received:
    0
    Animals ate it maybe?
     
  28. VirusType2

    VirusType2 Newbie

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2005
    Messages:
    18,192
    Likes Received:
    0
    OK, certainly. I was just entertaining the suggestion that these people were struck with some shock waves:

     
  29. Dan

    Dan Tank

    Joined:
    May 28, 2003
    Messages:
    4,186
    Likes Received:
    1
    But getting to an Olympic level in almost any sport will gift you with a lifetime of joint and soft tissue injuries.
     
  30. xombine

    xombine Tank

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2005
    Messages:
    2,648
    Likes Received:
    0
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touching_the_Void_(film)

    Fantastic documentary about Siula Grande. Climber breaks his leg and falls 100 feet after being cut loose by his partner but goes on to survive the next three days on melted snow, hopping five miles back to camp. It's streaming on Netflix for those who have.
     
  31. Kaptain H

    Kaptain H Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2007
    Messages:
    526
    Likes Received:
    0
    I recently watched that, it was one of the best documentaries I ever saw. It was very interesting in that the guys they interviewed were so honest and didn't seem to hold back anything when giving personal accounts, even to to the point of naming who they would have preferred survive in an accident, or hoping for a moment that Joe was dead so he wouldn't have to worry about rescuing him. I also liked the part where he went crazy hearing Boney M in his head, lol.
     
  32. xombine

    xombine Tank

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2005
    Messages:
    2,648
    Likes Received:
    0
    My thoughts exactly! Simon was extremely frank with his explanations, but to be honest you can't blame him. He's leaning against the face of a mountain holding his crippled friend up for an hour and a half in a blizzard without any movement from the rope, who wouldn't assume he had died? Also after reading this thread I've been looking into the climbing culture more and it seems pretty common that when attempting a dangerous climb you have to understand that if you're gravely injured and go down, you have to accept the fact that you may not be rescued.
     
  33. StarBob

    StarBob Tank

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2004
    Messages:
    2,677
    Likes Received:
    0
    I was watching something about the Dyatlov Pass incident a while back. I think they were mentioning the lack of clothing was from the fact that - one of the symptoms of hypothermia is that you start feelng incredibly hot and people tend to strip. I guess it doesn't explain the trauma but I'm not here to explain everything.
     
  34. <RJMC>

    <RJMC> The Freeman

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2004
    Messages:
    11,049
    Likes Received:
    69
    I think it was proven the dyatlov incudent was due to a avalanche
     
  35. kazsymonds

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2007
    Messages:
    928
    Likes Received:
    1
    I don't think anything was ever proven, but an Avalanche makes sense (crushed ribs / tent ripped from inside etc), but still doesn't explain the radiation or the tongue missing. Unless they were just made up by the craaazy Soviets. (those soviets and their radiation).
     
  36. Rizzo

    Rizzo Tank

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2006
    Messages:
    5,258
    Likes Received:
    0
    I hate when people talk about Dyatlov Pass. It's stupid. There are obvious explenations for everything. Clicky

    Edit: Oh and Everest... That's ****ing grim. I hope to climb that sucker one day. I'll bring you all some bones.
     
  37. Bad^Hat

    Bad^Hat The Freeman

    Joined:
    May 13, 2003
    Messages:
    19,989
    Likes Received:
    437
    Right, but that's all conjecture, no matter how well it holds up to scrutiny. That's it's why it's so interesting - everything is still open to interpretation because we'll likely never know what actually happened. Another person could come up with a different yet equally rational explanation, but they'd still just be drawing their own conclusions based on the bare facts available. I'm not saying it was some kind of supernatural event or government cover up, obviously that's pretty absurd, but sometimes it's fun to let your mind run with the possibilities. :)

    Anyway, derailing now. Damn, Everest! You crazy!
     

Share This Page