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Election USA 2004 - HL2.net community Vote

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CptStern, Oct 12, 2004.

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Election 2004: How would you vote

Poll closed Nov 11, 2004.
  1. I'm American and will be voting for: Kerry

    49 vote(s)
    18.4%
  2. I'm American and will be voting for: Bush

    30 vote(s)
    11.2%
  3. I'm American and will be voting for: Other

    5 vote(s)
    1.9%
  4. I'm not American but would vote for: Kerry

    99 vote(s)
    37.1%
  5. I'm not American but would vote for: Bush

    11 vote(s)
    4.1%
  6. I'm not American but would vote for: Other

    10 vote(s)
    3.7%
  7. I'm too young to vote but I would vote for: Kerry

    37 vote(s)
    13.9%
  8. I'm too young to vote but I would vote for: Bush

    23 vote(s)
    8.6%
  9. I'm too young to vote but I would vote for: Other

    3 vote(s)
    1.1%
  1. Element Alpha

    Element Alpha Newbie

    Why I say what I say?
    -Your "president" killed around 100,000 foreigners who did not get to vote in the USA like you
    -You want to re-elect him

    edit: This is not about who is right or who is wrong, understand? This about not voting for this bloodthursty moneyhungry murderer.

    He is like hitler for crying out loud! Did you know nazi concentrationcamps where not located in Germany, but in other countries, kept away from the German people's sight at all costs? Bush is a freakin' murderer and you defend him. This is how the entire world looks at it. And you want to re-elect him, because boo fu_ckin boo, they dared to attack you on you own soil, like your country does EVERY DAY on EVERY SINGLE CONTINENT.

    I await your retaliation patiently.
  2. seinfeldrules

    seinfeldrules Newbie

    You can bash Bush in your sig, I can put whatever I want in mine.

    I quoted exactly what you said. Reread it if you have to.
  3. Someone

    Someone Newbie

    American and voted for Kerry.
  4. scatr99

    scatr99 Newbie

    And it is utter bs = my point
  5. Element Alpha

    Element Alpha Newbie

    to back up my "this is how the entire world looks at him claim":
    http://www.betavote.com/

    there are more websites like this one if you need more proof, but just a quick sceem over national papers' websites will also give you a picture.
  6. seinfeldrules

    seinfeldrules Newbie

    And yours is utter bs = my point. Let me have mine, and you can have yours.

    Remind me how many German/French/Belgium citizens will be voting in this election.
  7. scatr99

    scatr99 Newbie

    How is mine bs, be specific. It is a known fact that there is no tie between Al Qaeda and Iraq.

    German/French/Belgium citizens aren't but US ones will be. It's showing how everyone in the entire world hates Bush. Regardless of what you may think, what people think of Americans does affect them.
  8. Element Alpha

    Element Alpha Newbie

    It's your responsability to make their opinion count.

    In nazi Germany Hitler spoiled the Germans with great speeches, great spectacles and bragged and bragged about his country's greatness, and so did the Germans.

    Also, did you know that the concept of nationalism was only invented around 1910, just before the first world war, by the Germans?
  9. seinfeldrules

    seinfeldrules Newbie

    There is some link between Iraq and Al Qaeda, just none between Iraq and 9/11 that has been made public.


    How can you invent nationalism? That is one of the most ridiculous stats I have ever seen.

    First off, the number 100,000 thousand is outrageous and on the extreme end of the spectrum. Secondly, it is impossible to determine how many were killed by Americans and in what situation. When terrorists are hiding in with civilians it pretty much throws these numbers out the window.

    Finally, say I create a nationally known newspaper. I tell everyone in Belgium to vote for X canidate. Does that mean you are required to listen to my opinion?

    Wow, there we go. Progress is being made.
  10. scatr99

    scatr99 Newbie

    Washington Post

    Yes, Kerry is winning
  11. seinfeldrules

    seinfeldrules Newbie

    Based on what? A few hours of voting? Some states have barely begun voting yet. Bush is polling strong in FLA right now so that is good. Seems Kerry supporters have resorted to slashing tires of cars used to transport Republican voters to and from polls in some areas.

    Also, I said there have been some links. The best example is the Al Qaeda operative that Saddam met with and allowed free hospital care in Iraq. This operative was then involved in 9/11 somewhere down the line.
  12. scatr99

    scatr99 Newbie

    Indeed, but I was referring to BetaVote.com which is how this got started if you recall.

    Post a link. Even if this is true, it hardly justifies an invasion. You need to learn how to draw a line between partiotism and morality.
  13. Element Alpha

    Element Alpha Newbie

    love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it [syn: patriotism] 2: the doctrine that your national culture and interests are superior to any other [ant: multiculturalism, internationalism] 3: the aspiration for national independence felt by people under foreign domination 4: the doctrine that nations should act independently (rather than collectively) to attain their goals
    source: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nationalism

    Nationalism is a concept. Like capitalism or communism for example. The love for one's country is not something natural. It has to be teached. Hence, you must invent it (or discover this concept) to be able to teach it in the first place.


  14. Raziaar

    Raziaar I Hate Custom Titles

    Do you guys forget history before the 1900's?

    People even in the ancient times were incredibly patriotic and supportive of their countries, and fought wars because of it. I doubt something like 'nationalism' was invented in more modern times.

    Maybe the 'term' nationalism was invented more recently, but definately not the spirit of it.
  15. seinfeldrules

    seinfeldrules Newbie

    Not true. It is only natural to love the country that you live in. How do you explain away the Greeks, Romans and many others.

    Show me an Iraqi city bombed out from coalition troops. Our missles are so advanced they can single out a single house out of a city block. Also, if you look at the facts the homicide bombers probably kill more than American troops. You see 60 Iraqi citizens killed daily by these car bombs and other attacks.

    Ahahaha that is such foolishness. With all the oil revenue they bring in they could easily accomplish this. Their goal is to fight the West, not be like it.

    Again, you take the extreme high end of the spectrum out of your article:

  16. seinfeldrules

    seinfeldrules Newbie

  17. So is Kerry--but guess what? If I had a choice, I would'nt vote for either one of them.

    I dont think he ever made that corellation. In his SiG, their is nothing suggestive he believes either Iraqi, Israeli, or Afghani, or Kalifornia (Arnoldism), commited 9/11.

    Thats just your assumption, scatr99.
  18. CptStern

    CptStern suckmonkey

  19. Yea, thats been proven bogus by one news article. "OMFG I MAED IT IT TEH WORKS!!!1 TEH CONNECTION OMFG ONE ARTICLE LOL DONE OWNED".

    What are you two talking about anyway?

    You both need more sources for what your discussing, because, im not getting the pictar here.
  20. CptStern

    CptStern suckmonkey

    that one source is the same source seinfeldrules used

    oh and figure it out ..read it damn you!!! :E
  21. Investigator

    Investigator Newbie

    I am not an American and i would vote for Ralph Nader.
  22. seinfeldrules

    seinfeldrules Newbie

    Stern this is Sheikh Hassan al-Turabi. That name is not mentioned in the article you posted.
  23. Element Alpha

    Element Alpha Newbie

    I give up on you. If you don't take the time to think about this once more, then that's too bad I guess. It's sad really. And people who think like you must be in the thousands, if not more. I feel like there's not much I can do about it, and your perceverence seems to prove it. Good work, nice job, we'll see how it'll all end I suppose.
  24. seinfeldrules

    seinfeldrules Newbie

    Not in the thousands, or hundreds, but tens of millions.
  25. CptStern

    CptStern suckmonkey

  26. oldagerocker

    oldagerocker Newbie

    from our little poll, although not representative of the US in total... looks like Kerry will win. lets hope imo :)

    lol im watching BBC 1 atm.. and they put John Snow behind a huge presidential helicopter... how silly.
  27. slicktick

    slicktick Newbie

    I voted bush, arent absentee ballots fun. :D

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