• Black Mesa Official Trailer Released

    Discussion in 'News' started by Hectic Glenn, Dec 1, 2008.

    One of the most talked about mods reveals an official trailer today, also stating their release isn't far off. It looks brilliant. Black Mesa website.

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Comments

Discussion in 'News' started by Hectic Glenn, Dec 1, 2008.

  1. MacBowes
    Selling Source Mods is illegal anyways, lol.
  2. Sulkdodds
    And post-processed quite extensively, mark you. It is flashy. It is running across the football pitch and showing us its manboobs.

    I feel that while this is not necessarily a sign of deception, it is perhaps indicative of an NS-style lack of confidence in showing the product to the public.

    On the other hand, it looks pretty cool.
  3. GeorgeWLucas
    Garry's Mod? It's legal to sell mods through Steam.
  4. Dr.Freeman
    Indeed it is.
  5. Eejit
    That's a somewhat unfair comparison.
    NS are making their own engine and are developing a commercial product. They are properly wary about releasing gameplay footage until it's at a stage they're happy with. Also they've only labelled their videos as tech demos or in-engine, they aren't releasing some massively touched up footage as a trailer with no gameplay footage yet seen.
  6. Sulkdodds
    Wait what.
    Apologies; I meant ND. I know absolutely nothing about the development of NS2.
  7. Gray Fox
    Yeah what happened to ND? Isn't ennui a mod for their forums too?
    Also as far as I knew the trailer did show a bit of gameplay footage when you see Gordon shooting with the smg and all that shit explodes.
  8. Eejit
    Ah no worries.
    For a minute I thought I'd have to organise a hit. NS2 is above and beyond criticism.
  9. Llama
  10. Rossjg
    Garry's Mod is a completely different thing to Black Mesa.
  11. Sledgehammer
    The dynamic infestation in NS2 looks like total win. So yeah. Apart from the Valve-ish development times, nothing to blame Unknown Worlds for.
  12. Yuri
    I think this mod looks awesome. But I'll be damned if I have to pay for it. :angry:
  13. Dr.Freeman
    Aren't all mods free?
  14. 63
  15. Llama
    =[ he's gone.

    Remind me and I might be able to some other time.
    What about the camera? As in does it stick to the player when we play it?

    Either way, using a camera from a different perspective =/= PP XD
  16. -Psy-
    I hope the player's view isn't as disjointed from the weapon as it seems in the video. :\
  17. Sheepo
    The crowbar animation is the only really annoying thing for me.
  18. GeorgeWLucas
    That's not the point. To say it's illegal to sell mods is incorrect. Valve allows mod creators to sell their products on Steam.
  19. Jintor
    I thought Valve bought GMod, and it stopped being a Mod, and became a "Valve Product"... so to speak.
  20. Mess
    well obviously it's valve's engine so they can choose to make exceptions here and there for stuff like Garry's mod, but people wanting to go it alone have to buy a license (which for the EP2 build was $300,000, I don't know if it's changed as they're updating it for L4D / EP3) and then they'll get access to tier0 stuff as well.
  21. Rossjg
    I think what he was saying was that it's illegal to sell mods outside of Steam. Valve won't pick up Black Mesa and put it on Steam for a price for a number of logical, rational reasons -- and they would be fools if they did -- so ultimately, Black Mesa will never, ever be sold.
  22. GeorgeWLucas
    No, it was not bought by Valve. It is not a Valve product. The profits are split 50/50.

    I would like to hear those reasons. I'm sure there was a time when the idea of selling a mod that was just a bunch of tools to play around with existing game assets was illogical as well.
  23. Lobster
    That scientist in the preview is starting to look more and more like a bearded Rick Moranis each time I visit the front page.
  24. Solver
    Reasons such as? I don't think it's a huge stretch for Valve to adopt BM. It'd make HL: Source look bad? Oh well... I think a modern remake of HL1 is exactly something that could be popular and sell. I wouldn't be surprised to see Valve hire some of the team later, too. Black Mesa sure has a lot more inherent appeal than Garry's Mod.
  25. MiccyNarc
    Holy shit.
  26. Tagaziel
    But seriously, doesn't the Black Mesa dress code require Barneys to shave?
  27. Captain M4d
    Half-Life was created in a time where no one valued facial hair. It's 2008. Things have changed. Beards are in!

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    Now playing: Metal Feathers - Visita
    via FoxyTunes
  28. Rossjg
    It is a massive stretch - the very idea of it is completely illogical and foolish. It has nothing to do with Half-life Source, but rather to do with Half-life, a game Valve made, the Golden Oldie. Black Mesa will never replace Half-life from a financial stand point. Valve simply would not let that happen and it simply isn't marketable..."Here's a mod remake of our game - accept it as canon!" If Valve wanted to remake Half-life, they would, and they would remake it in their own vision, through their own team, because Half-life belongs to Valve. If I had made something, and someone went ahead and remade it so many years later, would I replace it with that? Absolutely not. The idea is completely insane. They do not deserve money and they will not get money.

    What is more, whilst there's clearly some talent on the team, remaking Half-life is purely a skill from the technical standpoint. You cannot escape the fact that you are remaking other peoples work. From a creative standpoint it means absolutely nothing. If they were making an original mod, with new gameplay elements that started from a basis of absolutely nothing but their own imagination, maybe then we could entertain the thought. But for this? A remake? Don't make me laugh.
  29. Polaris
    Hey, I made same thing like you, with that new tools you gave me. Wanna buy?
  30. Orcone101
    I'm guessing if I was to run down a hallway I wouldn't be creative according to your logic.
  31. 63
    My brain hurts from reading this.
  32. Kadayi
    I agree with that sentiment.
  33. Rossjg
    Nonsense. My favourite!
  34. GeorgeWLucas
    While Valve probably won't purchase this mod, I don't see why they couldn't put it on Steam and promote it the same way they did with Garry's Mod. I mean, the Steam page for Garry's Mod has the G-Man in a bathtub with balloons for god's sake. By promoting the mod, it doesn't mean that they would be calling it canon. I think it's unfair to call this mod unoriginal or uncreative until you've actually played it.
  35. Orcone101
    I'm breathing heavily in a dark room.
    I'm breaking some sort of IP law right now.
  36. Sulkdodds
    Yes. There is no discernible difference between forms; all things are open to atomism and all propositions are vulnerable to reductio ad absurdum.
  37. Orcone101
    When I look down, I can see my feet.
    I'm copying Halo!
  38. Sulkdodds
    When was the last time you sold your feet, though?
  39. Orcone101
    If I sold them, I wouldn't be able to see them.
    Thus copying more games.

    I am so going to prison.